So, PvP comes out next week! (and there was much rejoicing)

Seikle/Teil, I, and a couple of other people have been debating how to do PvP on our server.
Personally, I think we should leave the current server on no-PvP and start another server for wars and the like.
Perhaps we could even have organized battles, and forbid attacking the other player at any other time (so we can ensure people are online to defend themselves)

Thoughts?

EDIT: Also Starshell has offered to host another server if Seikle/Teil doesn't want to host two servers at once.

I think it might actually be brilliant to go with having a new server for PvP. I guess the only rule would be that both people would have to be online for them to attack one another. Maybe we could say that you have to give 1 minute of warning, in case they're not actually there?

Also, would Starshell's server be more stable? Teil's hasn't really been running very often lately.

I have the server put on so whenever i turn my comp on, its on, but sometimes i forget to turn it on when i got to school in the morning.

ON THE SUBJECT OF PVP. I already have this all planned out like a boss. it was mostly in a skype convo though, so il just get some copypasta on the stove...

Eh, i still think it would be good even if they dont
Build a castle. form a faction. lead your followers.
Only way to become leader of an existing faction, is by killing the current one.
3 factions at most.
rogue villages are allowed
if you gain control of a faction, you can either diminish it, or lead it.
if you destroy the faction, you may create a new one using that same castle.
Convinced yet?

That is the exact lines of text i used on skype, now to see if i can find some moar...

OOH IDEA
We should have a COLLOSEUM
Where you can BATTLE
For MONEH
(We need currency more than ever for this one)

Thoughts?

Why would you ever agree to be the leader of a faction if they have an incentive to kill you? Either they'll be nice to you anyway, in which case you really don't need to make rules for it, it'll just happen, or they'll kill you to take your castle or whatever.

Again, it's a fine idea given certain circumstances, I'm just not sure we need it in this circumstance.

Also, in reply to the server thing, I was more referring to the times when either you don't turn your computer on, which is pretty often, or you don't actually make sure you have the mod that we've been using, or in cases like right now when you need to restart it or something but wait a while before doing so. I'm not blaming you, I know you have stuff to do, I'm just saying that's what I'm asking about.

Stashell told me he was going to leave the server on 24/7, and it seems he would be pretty good at updating mods and the like.

But let's let him chime in!

When it comes to factions and bands and whatnot, I think those should just sort themselves out. They form themselves (informally or formally), and can create their own set of laws and whatnot. Personally, I'm going to be starting a band of ruthless monster hunters and thieves. Join us. Something like that. As for castles: you occupy it, you own it. However, I think castles can only be captured when the other faction/player is online, but not necessarily ready for a fight. Also, how should castles be captured? In my opinion, each castle should have some sort of flag or symbol on a high point that you have to replace to capture the castle. This would make castles easily identifiable if you haven't been in the area recently. Maybe we should prep the server by building a few castles in strategic locations, and THEN let everyone loose. Just a thought. As for territory, I think territory should be determinable by anybody, and there will be much warring over nice places . The real problem I see with factions is that we don't really have enough people to form any good size battles. They'll all be over in a matter of seconds unless we really get down to cannons and suchlike. So, do we make ourselves more public, in the hopes that we don't get a massive influx of griefers, or do we just make do with the userbase we have, and just have some good fun without massive armies?

Yeah, that could have been put together much nicer, but it's basically just a dump of my opinions on the subject.

Ok, we can use a lot of things for this, but now that we have so many opinions, it becomes clear that anything more than anarchy would be too complicated. Let factions form themselves. the factions will be limited only by player count.


HOLY SHITBALLS OF FIRE BEST IDEA EVER.
YES.

WE GET more people on teh forum, moar people on teh servar, AND NO GREIFERS WAHAHAAGAGHGHG.

We just post on reddit the FORUM, and say that we have SERVER, but in order to get the IP, you need to POST AN INTRO ON THE FORUM. WOOOOOOT. satyagraha you may find this familiar. AND THEREFOR WE CAN HAVE WARS LIKE A BOSS.

'Nuff said foo's.

EDIT: Also, we can have prisoners an stuff, then we can pit tham against monsters, because THATS ANOTHER FEATURE NOTCH PUT IN.

This will be awesome. i am going to have the most boss secret cave ever.

Why would we open up the forum to all of Reddit? That doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure we have enough people to make it fun, and adding people we don't even know would probably make it worse, not better.

If we get more people on the forum that are actually cool people, either because know them or because they're from another site we like site, that's great. I'm happy to add them to the Minecraft server.

Since when was this a forum for ONLY gifted people? Hey csunday, would you happen to be PG? besides, i bet HARDLY ANY of the signups are going to actualy be part of the forum, it will only be those who browse it, and find it interesting. if they find it interesting, they will most likely be an interesting person. Besides, the main reason for this would be for more people on the SERVER, not the forum. And how would adding people we dont know make it worse in any way? isnt that the ENTIRE REASON we switched to our usernames from our real names in the first place? golly gee, mr. hippo.

No, what I'm saying is that it _is_ a site primarily for people that we think are going to be good contributors. This doesn't have to involve very much, but I think that it should involve more than "I saw it on Reddit."

Also, simmer down. It's not worth getting riled up about. I'm sorry if my opinion differs from yours.

No im not being riled up, trust me, it can seem like that at times though. But anyway, only a very small fraction are going to actually join. i dont even see why this is a big deal. this IS a post on the minecraft subforum you know, so do you have an opinion on that part, or are you just being off topic. *hint hint*. I was just pointing out that that kind of thing could happen. BACK TO MINECRAFT. Thoughts? it would get waaaay more people, and it would at least mostly prevent greifers.

No
First off, it wouldn't work. What is it about an introduction that completely prevents griefers, exactly?
Nothing.
Anyone, even a griefer can post an introduction. Requiring potential members to post introductions does not filter out anyone at all, let alone griefers.

And we want to limit this forum to people who are going to be good contributory members in all categories, not just minecraft. Random people on reddit who are joining just because they want to play minecraft are not necessarily going to become good members of the forum, and actually have a good chance of polluting it and making it into a place that nobody wants to be.

I guess. it was just a thought... sort of. Anyway.

From now on, my vote is COMPLETE anarchy. stating a few guidelines isn't anarchy. real theives rob when they wont get caught, when the enemy is SLEEPING, not when they are actively defending a castle. not one rule or guideline. the self made factions will make their own.

I second that.

I agree that this would be pretty fun for a while. Let's go with it for the first couple of weeks, or something, then decide what to do from there.